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 For Air Canada Retirees

October 16, 2010 - Issue 1136
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In This Issue
Upcoming Events
Alan's Space
Canadi>n/CP Air/PWA, Wardair, etc
Odds & Ends
Web Site

The NetLetter Web Site
The NetLetter Web Site
ACFamily Network
ACFamily Links
Air Canada Pionairs

Project North Star

ACFamily Obituaries
Terry Baker

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Upcoming Events - Compiled by Alan Rust
Quarter Century in Aviation
Notice of Dinner Meeting:

Tuesday, October 19, 2010
Socials: 1700 hours    
  1800 hours
Dinner Menu:  Beef and Schnitzel
Location:  The Vancouver Austria Club, 5851 Westminster Highway, Richmond
Speaker:  Teara Fraser, President of Kisik Aerial Survey

Presidents Message:

Well it's that time of year again; time to prepare for another season, good speakers, food and seeing old friends. 

Our next dinner meeting is scheduled for October 19.  We have a fabulous guest speaker, Teara Fraser, President of Kisik Aerial Survey and she will be talking about a specialist niche in "Precision Imagery" using a million dollar camera.

See website for more info:

From Jerry Milek

Just a reminder for AC (TCA) hockey teams of this well guarded secret.

Every year around Nov.10 is the interline hockey tournament in Prague, Czech Republic, organized by OK hockey team. Lots of fun and limited number of teams, so make the reservation for your team early. Visiting airline teams are usualy from Finland, Switzerland, Russia, Canada from Quebec, UAE from Dubai and others.

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TCA/Air Canada People Gallery - Compiled by Terry Baker
TCA/Air Canada LogoMusings from the "Between Ourselves" magazine an Air Canada publication from years gone by.
Issue dated - January 1968
Extracts from the "Between Ourselves" magazines -
Airport Professionals

SOME OF THE PEOPLE in a variety of jobs who are involved in keeping an airport  and an airline operating are shown in front of a DC-8-61 at Toronto's international Airport. The photo was taken by Dick Laek for a feature story which appeared in the Toronto Telegram.

Take a stretched DC-B (back ground), take a single (contingent) passenger, Joanne Blackwell (No. 1 in the seat, foreground). Put between them some of the people and machines that service the plane and serve the passenger. and you have quite a crowd.

Specifically: 2, Gii Rochon, Purser; 3. Peggy Bevan. Stewardess: 4. Barbara Berger, Ground Hostess; 5. Robert Ste ward. Navigator: 6. David Stanton, Captain: 7. ,J. H Coleman. First Officer: 8, C. I,. Jezzard Flight Crew Scheduling Officer: 9. Gloria Bousher. Ground Hostess ; 10. Robert Ruston. Passenger Agent ; Il - William Brown. Porter. 12. Wolfgang Roessler. Head Chef. Aeroqua Restaurant; 13, S. Mcllraith, Pharmacist. Air port Drug Store: 14. Mrs. Margaret Watho Drug Store sales clerk: 15. Sam Blandino, barber; 16. Enrique Luis, Captain of waiters at the Aeroquay. 17. John Buchanan. Load Agent; 18, Ernie Bowyer. Flight Dispatcher; 19. Victoria Thistle. Telecommunications Operator: 20. Gray Montgomery, Telecommunications Agent; 21, W. J. Taylor, Commissary Supervisor. 22, Doug Will. Sales Rep for Avis Rent-a-Car: 23. Euclide LaPointe, Air Line Service chauffeur; 24. George Porter, Manager. Budget Rent-A-Car: 25. David Dow. Millwright Mechanic: 26, Jim McGuire, Electrician; 27. K. C. Rung, Painter: 28. W. D. Pinto. Millwright Mechanic; 29. J.J. Slowinski, Metal Shop Mechanic: 30, M. Barker, Janitor: 31. John Stirton. Storeman. 32, Gerry Dodds. 'Air Traffic Controller : 33, Kenneth Ralph, Air Traffic Controller; 34 S. Dennis, Supervisor Gate Assignment: 35. C. S. Baldwin, Telecommunications Area Manager 36. John Harris, Electrician: 37. Jack Davey. Structural Trades Supervisor: 38. J. Knaud, Superintendent of Building Maintenance; 39. M. Cristink, Maintenance Supervisor: 40. Joy Campbell. Eastern Air Lines Ground Hostess; 4I Mary Heron, Mohawk Airlines Counter Sales, 42, Julia Marahno. CPA Ground Hostess; 43. Arvind Shah, Met Officer. 44, Joan Smart, Mutual of Omaha insurance : 45. James Carroll, Medical Officer: 46. Gladys Bonucl Nurse: 47, H.1. Killikelly. Medical Officer; 48. John Lucas, immigration officer, 49. Earl King. Shift Manager:50, Kenneth Fell, Maintenance Work Control 0fficer ; 51. George Townsend, Chief Operating Engineer; 52. M. B. ONeill Fire Chief; 53, Sgt..John McDougall, RCMP; 54, Sgt. A. J. Pulford. Commissionaire. 55. Cyril Wilson, Lead Station Attendant; 56. Dennis Fostou, Firefighter; 57. Horace Owen, Firefighter; 58. William Munro, Fire Officer; 59, Don Miller. Station Attendant: 60, John Brodeau. Station Attendant. 61, Evertoo Kitchener. Maintenance Foreman; 62. Beverly Porter, Equipment Operator; 63. Jack Petty, Bus Driver; 64. John Weir, Aircraft Grooming; 65. V. Bridport, Radio Technician: 66. Norhert Farley. Aero Mechanic: 67. Bruce Thompson, Aero Mechanic. 68. Kennineth McBride. Aircraft Mechanic; 69. R. F. Vye. Aircraft Mechanic : 70. M. J. Eleo, Fueller: 71, Frank Piper, Fueller.

The vehicles are:
A. groomers' vehicle; B, fire engine; C. cargo pallet trans porter; D. RCMP cruiser: E, fork lift truck; F. Department of Transport vehicle; G. maintenance vehicle for aircraft servicing; H, conveyor; I. refueling tender; j, aircraft towing tractor : K, air conditioner; F, bus; M. snow blower; N. Department of Transport service vehicle.
Roger Beaudry - 25 year pin - 1968

On hand while Herve Lesage presented Roger Beaudry, Cargo Service Manager with his 25-year pin. are,
from the left standing: Tom Gray, Aussie Candy, Roger and Hervé, Wally Lamond, John Dozais.

Seated from the left: Ken Burns, Bob Blanchette, Bill Vowles, Gord Harker, Syd Woods, Norm Batten.

Issue dated - Febuary 1968
Forgive Crew Sched in Verse
Louise Ingrain left and Judy Clendening Winnipeg Stewardesses get a big hug from Moe Kelley, one of the Crew Schedulers they "forgive".

Here are their sentiments..
For all the early morning flights
the ones on cold and frosty nights
For all the times you made us blue
By telling us "Flight 902"?
We Forgive You!
For all the times when in our beds
We snuggled down our "heavy" heads,
And wondered if we'll soon he dead
Good Grief! The phone did ring - Crew Sked
We Forgive You!
And when the winter winds did blow
O'er runways laden deep in snow
You called on us, and did us draft
And sent us on that cold aircraft.
We Forgave You!
For all the flights with football teams
(The ones that filled our "fondest" dreams!)
The 26's on the floor.
Our aching feet could move no more.
We Forgive You!
For all the times from pure exhaust
We fell upon the floor;
You picked us up and guided us
Toward an aircraft door!
We Forgive You!!
But most of all - for all the kind
And loving words you've said.
Encouragement means quite a lot,
And so to you  Crew Sked
We Thank You!
Alan's Space - by Alan Rust
Alan's Space
Alan Rust
Round (radial) Engine vs Jet Engine
(from Al Watson)

First the Round engine
Starting, take off and flying with the wonderful radial powered aircraft (an AD-6)

Any Radial Starting (This is a 3350 engine on an AD-6) Be sure you drain both the sumps. (You can fill your Zippo lighter while you do this)

Look out the left side of the oily cockpit canopy and notice a very nervous person holding a huge fire bottle. Nod knowingly to this person.
1. Crack throttle about one-quarter of an inch.
2. Battery on
3. Mags on
4. Fuel boost on
5. Hit starter button (The four bladed 13' 6' prop will start a slow turn)
6. Begin to bounce your finger on top of the primer button.
    a.  This act requires finesse and style. It is much like a ballet performance. The engine must be seduced and caressed into starting.
7.  Act one will begin: Belching, banging, rattling, backfiring, spluttering, flame and black smoke from the exhaust shooting out about three feet. (Fire bottle person is very pale and has the nozzle at the ready position)
8.  When the engine begins to "catch" on the primer. Move the mixture to full rich. The flames from the exhaust will stop and white smoke will come out. (Fire bottle guy relaxes a bit) You will hear a wonderful throaty roar that is like music to the ears..
    a. Enjoy the macho smell of engine oil, hydraulic fluid and pilot   sweat.
9.  Immediately check the oil pressure and hydraulic gages.
10. The entire aircraft is now shaking and shuttering from the torque of the engine and RPM of prop.
    a.  The engine is an 18 cylinder R-3350 that develops 2,700 HP.
11. Close cowl flaps to warm up the engine for taxi.
12.  Once you glance around at about 300 levers, gauges and gadgets, call the tower to taxi to the duty runway.

Take off in the AD-6
1. Check both magnetos
2. Exercise the prop pitch
3. Cowl flaps open.
4. Check oil temp and pressure.
5. Crank 1.5 degrees right rudder trim to help your right leg with the torque on takeoff.
6. Tell the tower you are ready for the duty runway.
7. Line the bird up and lock the tail wheel for sure.
8. Add power slowly because the plane (with the torque of the monster prop and engine power definitely wants to go left).
9. NEVER add full power suddenly! There is not enough rudder in the  entire world to hold it straight.
10. Add more power and shove in right rudder till your leg begins to tremble.
11. Expect banging, belching and an occasional manly fart as you roar down the runway at full power.  (I have found that the engine can make similar noises)
12. Lift the tail and when it "feels right" pull back gently on the stick to get off the ground.
13. Gear up
14. Adjust the throttle for climb setting
15. Ease the prop back to climb RPM
16. Close cowl flaps and keep an eye on the cylinder head temp.
17. Adjust the power as needed as you climb higher or turn on the super charger.

Flying with the round engine.
1. Once your reach altitude which isn't very! high (about 8000 feet) you reduce the throttle and prop to cruise settings.
2. The next fun thing is to pull back the mixture control until the engine just about quits. Then ease it forward a bit and this is best mixture..
3. While cruising the engine sounds like it might blow or quit at any time. This keeps you occupied scanning engine gauges for the least hint of trouble.
4. Moving various levers around to coax a more consistent sound from the engine concentrates the mind wonderfully.
5. At night or over water a radial engine makes noises you have never heard before.
6. Looking out of the front of the cockpit the clouds are beautiful because they are slightly blurred from the oil on the cockpit canopy.
7. Seeing lightning in the clouds ahead increases the pucker factor by about 10.
    a.  You can't fly high enough to get over them and if you try and get under the clouds----you will die in turbulence.
    b.  You tie down everything in the cockpit that isn't already secured, get a good grip on the stick, turn on the deicers, tighten and lock your shoulder straps and hang on.
    c.  You then have a ride to exceed any "terror" ride in any amusement park ever built. You discover the plane can actually fly sidewise while inverted.
8. Once through the weather, you call ATC and in a calm deep voice advise them that there is slight turbulence on your route.
9. You then scan your aircraft to see if all the major parts are still attached. This includes any popped rivets.
10. Do the controls still work? Are the gauges and levers still in proper  limits?
11. These being done you fumble for the relief tube, because you desperately need it. (Be careful with your lower flight suit zipper)

The jet engine and aircraft

Start a jet
1. Fuel boost on.
2. Hit the start button
3. When the JPT starts to move ease the throttle forward.
4. The fire bottle person is standing at the back of the plane and has no idea what is going on.
5. The engine lights off---and---
6. That's about it.

Take off in the jet
1.  Lower flaps
2.  Tell the tower you are ready for takeoff.
3.  Roll on to the duty runway while adding 100% power.
4.  Tricycle gear---no tail to drag---no torque to contend with.
5.  At some exact airspeed you lift off the runway.
6.  Gear up
7.  Milk up the flaps and fly.
8.  Leave the power at 100%

Flying the jet
1. Climb at 100%
2. Cruise at 100%
3. It is silent in the plane.
4. You can't see clouds because you are so far above them.
5. You look down and see lightning in some clouds below and pity some poor fool that may have to fly through that mess.
6. The jet plane is air conditioned!! Round engines are definitely not. If you fly in tropical areas, this cannot be stressed enough.
7. There is not much to do in a jet, so you eat your flight lunch at your leisure.
8. Few gauges to look at and no levers to adjust. This leaves you doodling on your knee board.
9. Some call girl friends on their cell phones: "Guess where I am etc"

Some observed differences in round engines and jets
1. To be a real pilot you have to fly a tail dragger for an absolute minimum of 500 hours.
2. Large round engines smell of gasoline (115/145), rich oil, hydraulic fluid, man sweat and are not air-conditioned.
3. Engine failure to the jet pilot means something is wrong with his air conditioner.
4. When you take off in a jet there is no noise in the cockpit. (This does  not create a macho feeling of doing something manly)
5. Landing a jet just requires a certain airspeed and altitude---at which you cut the power and drop like a rock to the runway. Landing a round engine tail dragger requires finesse, prayer, body English, pumping of rudder pedals and a lot of nerve.
6. After landing, a jet just goes straight down the runway.
7. A radial tail dragger is like a wild mustang---it might decide to go anywhere. Gusting winds help this behavior a lot.
8. You cannot fill your Zippo lighter with jet fuel.
9. Starting a jet is like turning on a light switch---a little click and it is on.
10. Starting a round engine is an artistic endeavor requiring prayer (curse words) and sometimes meditation.
11. Jet engines don't break, spill oil or catch on fire very often which leads to boredom and complacency.
12. The round engine may blow an oil seal ring, burst into flame, splutter for no apparent reason or just quit. This results in heightened pilot awareness at all times.
13. Jets smell like a kerosene lantern at a scout camp out.
14. Round engines smell like God intended engines to smell and the tail dragger is  the way God intended for man to fly

Pass this on to real pilots who can still remember... 
Canadi>n/CP Air/PWA, Wardair, etc. People & Events
- Compiled by Terry Baker
CAIL TailsNews and articles from days gone by gleaned from various publications from C.A.I.L. and it's "ancestry" of contributing airlines.
Issue dated - August 1999
Extracts from the "Canadi>n Flyer" magazine -

- June 1st - The restart of  service between Toronto and Milan, previously dropped in October 1995....

Quebec Trade Mission 1999

Members of the crew involved in the Quebec governments trade mission to Mexico in June, here is a photo of those

Members of the Quebec trade mission
Front row left to right:
Paul Trihey, Director, Corporate Sales; Francois Legault. Minister of Education; Premier Lucien Bouchard; Aline Marchand, Flight Attendant (F/A); Gisele Leblanc, F/A. Middle row: Fernand Herrbach, F/A; Capt. Jean-Louis Poirier; Micheline Boucher, F/A; Audrey Best, spouse of Premier Bouchard; Brendan Doyle, Manager, Contract Services and Charter Operations; Cliff Hooper, Regional Manager Security (West). Back row: First Officer Eric David; Louise Legal, F/A; Carole Croteau, F/A; John Salvatore, Concierge; Mario Hardy, Group Express Manager; Yvette Herrbach, spouse. Missing: Helene Roy, F/A; Lois O'Connell, F/A; and Dann Cantley, Product Manager (East).


Customers service was taken to new heights on Canadian Pacific Airlines flights in the 1950's as shown in this photo.

Issue dated - September 1999
Canadian's MEDA desk not only organized the shipment of human organs but also handles travel arrangements for disabled passengers, ensuring they have the appropriate medical and logistical  support to complete their journey safely and comfortably.
Here is a photo of the team.
Left to right: Phillipe Legault, Danielle Blouin, Joanne Therrien, Nathalie Laredo, Euginia Beylerian, Marcel Rondeau, Mylene Robert.

Odds & Ends - Compiled by Terry Baker
Odds & EndsSometimes we come across items that don't quite fit anywhere else. We place them here.

For those of you with some spare change, here is a "must have" pair of book-ends, and ...
For those of you computer geeks, how about a USB stick with an Air Canada tail fin emblem?

Available from

Antonov 225
Antonov Cockpit

Jack Morath
has sent us some photos of the worlds largest aircraft, the Antonov 225.

This aircraft was recently at Niagara Falls airport  to load compressors to fly direct to Saudi Arabia.

These pics are of the Russian behemoth when it came into  Medford,  OR to pick up two Sikorsky fire fighting helicopters to take overseas - $1,000,000 to transport them,- 32 wheels! Costs more than my house to rotate the tires!

While they were loading the helicopters, the Russian pilots (two crews), went into town to buy cigarettes by the case and Levis   jeans. It is amazing something this huge can stay in the air. The Wright brothers would never have dreamed it. 
Terry's Trivia and Travel Tips - by Terry Baker
Terry Baker
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Terry was away in England to brush up on his accent when this issue was prepared...
Smileys - Compiled by Terry Baker
As we surf the internet and back issues of airline magazines we regularly find airline related jokes and cartoons. Below is our latest discovery.
This cartoon by Dave Mathias was in the "Between Ourselves" issued January 1968.

We hope you have enjoyed this issue of the NetLetter, see you next week!

Your NetLetter Team
First published in October, 1995
  • Chief Pilot - Terry Baker, Nanaimo, B.C.
  • Co-pilot - Alan Rust, Surrey, B.C.
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