The NetLetter #1139

The NetLetter
 For Air Canada Retirees

November 6, 2010 - Issue 1139
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In This Issue
Donation Request
Upcoming Events
Our first 70 years
Star Alliance News
Air Canada Related News.
TCA/Air Canada People Gallery
Alan's Space
Canadi>n/CP Air/PWA, Wardair, etc
Reader's Feedback
Odds & Ends
Terry's Trivia
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The NetLetter Web Site
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ACFamily Network
ACFamily Links
Air Canada Pionairs

Project North Star

ACFamily Obituaries


Obituaries Recently Added

- Capt. Don Stanger
- Norman Holt

- Opal Miscavish

- Capt. Dave Tribe

- Leslie Anderson

- Fred Gottgetreu

- Louise-Philippe Demers

- Gerald Letourneau

- Gordon Gillespie

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Upcoming Events and Meetings
Canadian Aviation Historical Society

Canadian Aviation
Historical Society


Vancouver Chapter Meeting

Next Meeting: Tuesday, November 9, 2010


Meetings: Second Tuesday of every month (except July, August, and statutory holidays)
Location: Richmond Cultural Centre, 7700 Minoru Boulevard, Richmond, British Columbia
Time: 1900 Hours
Landing Fee: $2

Our meeting location is the Board Room, on the Main Floor of the RCC, down the hall to the right, behind the main Auditorium.

Dr. Stan Copp
Dr. Stan Copp



Professor Stanley Copp -

Ph.D., Professor of Forensic Anthropology; Instructor / Lecturer in Anthropology / Archaeology / Forensic Archaeology 


For our November meeting, we have Professor Stanley Copp's talk about Aviation Archaeology. He was able to speak since his travel plans to China have been postponed. If all goes well, he hopes to be off to Xi'an to recover the remains of a wartime pilot from the 23rd Fighter Group. Also, he has been investigating some wartime RCAF crash sites in B. C. as well as in the Aleutian Islands. He is also involved in the U. S. group that recovers and identifies human remains from military crash sites in places such as Vietnam.




All interested are welcome to attend! For more info Click here!

Shirlee Schacter of the "Friends of Front Street" sends this message -

Dear FoFS Members,
Hope everyone has had a great year and the chance to enjoy all our sunshine!
Thinking it would be nice to have a year-end, pre-Christmas, get-together for a casual lunch, or just drinks, around 12-ish on Sat. Nov. 27th at Hooters, 171 Carlingview Dr., off Dixon Rd. at Meteor Dr.  (That's the place the Air Canada Coffee Group hold their monthly get-togethers).  The atmosphere is bright and cheerful, as is the serving staff!

It's always nice to catch up with old friends, so if you're interested please let me know.
Thanks and warm regards,
Shirlee This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Our first 70 years - Compiled by Terry Baker
Trans-Canada Air Lines/Air Canada





  • January - Super Constellation aircraft retired from scheduled service.
  • February - Jetliner service inaugurated between Canada, Trinidad and Barbados.
  • March 2nd - Service between Canada and Brussels suspended due to low loads. 
       Originally inaugurated in April 1958

1980 - January  1st - Contract signed with Boeing Commercial Airplane Co for twelve B767-200 aircraft.


  • February 1st - "Connaisseur" service started for full paying pax on selected routes.
    - " Reservair" introduced to capture information on "travel planners".
  • June - Company announced the purchase of 29.3%interest in Guiness Peat Aviation Shannon Ireland.
  • October 26th - First DC-8-63 converted from passenger to freight use entered service.
Star Alliance News - Compiled by Terry Baker
Star Alliance
Star Alliance
Shanghai Airlines withdraws from Star, set to join SkyTeam with China Eastern. China Eastern Airlines said that its wholly owned subsidiary Shanghai Airlines has withdrawn from the Star Alliance to join SkyTeam along with CEA next year.
Air Canada Related News - Compiled by Terry Baker

Air Canada News 

Family Affair Specials to Switzerland! To promote the Switzerland service this winter, AC is offering employees great Family Affair fares to and from Zurich and Geneva for travel until February 28th, 2011 (some blackouts apply). You must book by November 21, 2010 to take advantage of this great offer. Remember that these Fares are also available to your family traveling without you. Please review the eligibility and booking procedures by clicking on the News & Policies then the Family Affair tabs on the Employee Travel Site on the Portal.

With the departure of AC 7971 on Saturday, October 30, Air Canada inaugurated daily, non-stop service between Toronto and New Orleans. Flights to The Big Easy are operated with 75-seat, Jazz CRJ 705 aircraft.

TCA/Air Canada People Gallery - Compiled by Terry Baker
TCA/Air Canada LogoMusings from the "Between Ourselves" magazine an Air Canada publication from years gone by.
Issue dated - November 1984
Extracts form the "Regionews"

newyorkPresident meets Southern managers -
On a recent visit to New York,  Pierre Jeanniot, President & Chief Executive Officer, took time out from a busy schedule to appear in this photo with Bert Chapman, General Manager, South, and his Managers.

Left to Right: Back Row - Jean-Marc Trottier, Manager, Haiti; Mr. Jeanniot; David Burke, District Manager, Barbados. Front row - Leslie Nanton, Manager, Antigua; Mano Gibbons, Manager, Trinidad; Mr. Chapman; Guy Delahaie, A/District Manager, Guadeloupe and Martinique; John "Buch" Buchanan, District Manager, Jamaica; and David Young, District Manager, Bermuda.

laguardiaLGA handles small packages -
The company recently opened a Small Package Acceptance Counter at the Marine Air Terminal at LaGuardia Airport in New York. A reception, at which light refreshments were provided for current and potential Customers, was held to mark the occasion.


Left to Right: Eileen Riska, secretary to Ed Parisi, Regional Cargo Sales & Service Manager, U.S. & South, New York; Joe Pareti, Passenger Sales Manager, New York; Dudley Porterfield and Frank Cangialosi, Customer Service Agents, Cargo; Maria Poswinski, Secretary; Henry Fleming, Lead CSA; Bill Walsh, CAS-Cargo; George Hoban, Cargo Sales & Service Manager, JFK; and Janls Blake, secretary to the General Manager, Northeast U.S.

Issue dated - March 1962
Extracts form the "Between Ourselves" magazine-
worldclockRemember the World Clock in the terminal at Montreal Airport? 
Measuring more than six feet in diameter and weighing 350 lbs, it gives the times for more than 20 cities from Dawson to the Azores and Winnipeg to Karachi. The only one of its kind in North America. Five others exist around the world.

Our photo shows Walter Liechiem, Ursula Moore and Bertha Getz checking the time for their homelands of Zurich, Dusseldorf and Vancouver.
tcacalpaPhotographed at the signing of a new collective agreement between TCA and CALPA at the end of January are from the left: F.C.Eyre, Capt's. J.B.Higham,  F.E.W.Smith,  J.H.Foy, F/O H.T.A.Wells. Seated: J.K.Fraser, R.L.Rood, Capt's A.D.Mills, P.C.Hamilton,

flyingclub35 Montreal employees unite to form their own flying club.
The idea was first formed in the mind of Yves Larouche, Ramp Supervisor. Dorval, two years ago and he devised a plan whereby he could guarantee a flying club, a certain number of hours flown per month in return for a considerable discount on each flying hour.

At first his efforts proved fruitless, but persistence led to an agreement with Person's Flying Service, situated at Cartierville Airport, five miles from Montreal International Airport.

As the idea caught on and the club expanded, its members were divided into two groups in order to allow an even greater discount to those who were flying a considerable number of hours each month. At the beginning of the month the members of the first group paid for three hours which they promised to fly that month. By doing this, a reduction of $5 off the normal rental price was given to them. Those of the second group received a $3 discount but had no minimum requirements.

In forming this club Larouche had several ideas in mind. In the first place, every member would have a great deal in common with the others in that they were all employed by TCA and they were all interested in and enjoyed flying. He also realized that as a group they would be able to obtain substantial discounts on the rental price and thus enable more to enjoy the sport.

Pictured here from the left are: Yves Larouche, John Bernier, Les Barr of Pearson's Flying Club, Pat Flood, Eric Lilje.

(Does this club still exist? - We would like to have an update to pass along - eds)

On February 9th, Viscount CF-TGM fin 605 c/n 50 suffered undercarriage trouble at take-off at Toronto. Captain C.P.Kenworthy elected to divert from Ottawa and attempt a landing at Montreal where he could obtain maximum assistance. The left hand wheels could not be extended  Two options were either an all wheels up belly landing, or a two wheel landing. The Captain elected to try for a two wheel landing which he achieved with the minimum of damage. The aircraft was repaired within four days and back in service.

salesmanagementINFORMALLY DRESSED during a recent European Sales Management Conference, members gathered outside their meeting place in Turnberry, Ayrshire, Scotland to have their photograph taken. From the left are: J. Horan, District Manager, Ireland; A. Reid, District Manager, Rome; M. Law, Director Department Services; P. Jerome, Sales Promotion Manager, London, Eng.; A. Bartok, District Manager, Vienna; W. M. Garven  District Sales Manager, London; A. Patten Wilson, District Manager, Belgium; .J. P. Labrie, District Manager, Switzerland; S. K. Wild, Secretary, European Sales Manager J. Maxwell, European Soles Manager; J. Murphy, District Manager, Copenhagen; L. B. Sampson, District Sales Manager, Winnipeg; A. Gauthier, District Manager, Paris; R. Weller, District Manager, Dusseldorf.

alacarteOn February 27th in Toronto the theme was "Europe a la carte - 1962" held at the Crystal Ballroom of the King Edward Hotel. Introducing TCA's travel menu to travel agents. Here is a photo of the six stewardesses native to the six countries represented, introduced by J.E.Nickson . From the left: Sylvia Cooper (Britian), Margaret Hurst (Ireland), Christa Rittershausen (Germany), Danielle Carpentier (France), Reingard Mueller (Austria), Dolly Stolz (Switzerland).

Alan's Space - by Alan Rust
Alan's Space
Alan Rust
Robert Metcalfe and the $10 Bill
If you look at the back right-hand side of a Canadian $10 bill, you will see an old veteran standing at attention near the Ottawa war memorial. His name is Robert Metcalfe and he died recently at the age of 90.

That he managed to live to that age is rather remarkable, given what happened in the Second World War. Born in England, he was one of the 400,000 members of the British Expeditionary Force sent to the mainland where they found themselves facing the new German warfare technique - the Blitzkrieg.

He was treating a wounded comrade when he was hit in the legs by shrapnel. En route to hospital, his ambulance came under fire from a German tank, which then miraculously ceased fire. He was evacuated from Dunkirk on the HMS Grenade but unfortunately two of the sister ships with them were sunk.

Robert Metcalfe
Robert Metcalfe
Recovered, he was sent to allied campaigns in North Africa and Italy. En route his ship was chased by the German battleship Bismarck!

In North Africa he served under General Montgomery against the Desert Fox, Rommel!
Sent into the Italian campaign, he met his future wife, a lieutenant and physiotherapist in a Canadian hospital. They were married in the morning by the mayor of the Italian town, and again in the afternoon by a British padre.

After the war they settled in Chatham where he went into politics and became the warden (chairman) of the county. On his retirement he and his wife moved to Ottawa.
At the age of 80 he wrote a book about his experiences.

PoppyOne day out of the blue he received a call from a government official asking him to go downtown for a photo op. He wasn't told what the photograph was for or why they chose him.

"He had no idea he would be on the bill," his daughter said.

And now you know the story of the old veteran on the $10 bill!
10 Dollar Bill

Robert Metcalfe on $10 bill


More information here...

Canadi>n/CP Air/PWA, Wardair, etc. People & Events
- Compiled by Terry Baker
CAIL TailsNews and articles from days gone by gleaned from various publications from C.A.I.L. and it's "ancestry" of contributing airlines.
Issue dated - December 1998
Extracted fro the "Canadi>n Flyer" magazine -

loriLori Howard was the first female Flight Dispatcher in North America.

In 1973, Lori was the first female employee of any North American airline to gain entrance to the then exclusive male dominated world of Flight Dispatch opening the door for other women to follow in this profession. In 1998 out of a department of 35 dispatchers, there are two other females - Cherie Andrews and Sandi White.. The profession is no longer a male fiefdom.

loripeersThis is a photo of Lori with her peers at the Calgary Flight Dispatch.
Left to right: Paul Roberts, Chuck Lynn, Keith HO, Claude Hamel.

Reader's Feedback - Compiled by Terry Baker
Reader's Feedback
Every week we ask our readers for their stories or feedback on what they have read here in previous issues. Below is the feedback we have received recently.

Lucien Baril sends us this family information -
I am a retired AC employee. Joined AC in 1961 as station attendant. Became sales rep in Québec City in 1970 and in 1977 co founder of the enRoute credit card and later VPres of enRoute Card International.

All this to say that Air Canada was a family company. Dad joined Trans-Canada Air LInes in 1937 in St-Hubert (Québec). At that time there were only about 100 employees and my father was 'jack of all trades' changing oil on aircraft, loading, cleaning, grooming and even traveling with aircraft to unload air mail at destinations where there were no staff!
He retired after 35 years of great joy working for Air Canada as aircraft painter (he actually painted the first DC8). In 2000, one of my brothers also retired after 35 years. Two other brothers worked during summers while going to school.
Thank you for reminding us of the 'good old days'.

Lucien Baril

p.s. There was a spelling error in Yves Pratte's name (Pratte with an 'e' not Pratt).
The error is in the "Our first 70 years" section of NetLetter nr 1135 - eds)

CF-CPGRussell Brown has sent us this information regarding the article in Alan's space; in NetLetter 1134 -
I enjoyed the DC-8 Video in the last newsletter.(1134) 


The DC-8 prototype shown was called "ship one" by Douglas and was initially registered N8008D (c/n 45252/1). It  flew as N8008D for its' life time except for one year, from October 1966 to October 1967, when it was in Canadian Pacific Airlines livery as CF-CPN "Empress of Santiago". I was qualified as F/O on that aircraft at Abbotsford BC by Capt. Jim Gardner on November 2nd '66. Sadly N8008D was broken up as scrap in 2001 at Marana Arizona. It should have been preserved as a piece of aviation history.

CF-CPGletterAnother CP DC-8, fin # 602 CF-CPG, was famous as the first jet transport to fly supersonic, ie: faster than mach1. Douglas Aircraft had made a range guarantee to Canadian Pacific Airlines for the North Pacific routes and they were testing engineering assumptions on the improved 4% leading edge wing extension during this flight. You might find the attached photo and news release of interest.
 Cpt. Russell Brown
( CPAL retired) 

Jack Morath from London, England has sent us these four photos, which he believes is in the 1965 era...
porthardy He had to visit Port Hardy and as there was no road into that town at the time, he had to fly in.
dc-3 A DC-9 of PWA which looks to be at YVR.
/prestwick Control tower at Prestwick airport in Scotland.
yvr Ann early view of YVR.
Odds & Ends - Compiled by Terry Baker
Odds & EndsOne of Canada's busiest GA airports will be closed within five years to make way for a massive housing development. And while the Sifton family, which owns the 160-acre Buttonville Airport, near downtown Toronto, will make hundreds of millions of dollars on the deal, they've fought for years to maintain the money-losing operation that serves as an important reliever to Pearson International Airport.
The Transportation Safety Board of Canada (TSB) has released its final report into the January 10, 2008 incident when an Air Canada Airbus A319 encountered wake turbulence en route from Victoria, B C. to Toronto, Ontario.
The flight crew felt a series of bumps followed by roll inputs. The crew declared an emergency and diverted the flight to Calgary International Airport. TSB investigators concluded that there was not enough separation between the A319 and a preceding Boeing 747-400. the wake vortices from the 8747 had not dissipated. The wingtip vortices contained sufficient energy to significantly destabilize the A319 in pitch and roll. (source Airliner World)
The two former Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) Hawker Siddeley HS748s, VH-AHL and VH-AMQ, are set for a new future at the Skylark Hotel at Southend Airport UK. They were lifted into position in the hotel grounds on July 19th.

britanniaHere we have another "Flypast" from the LHR newspaper "Skyport" Sept 17/10 saved for us by Jack Morath -

A rare Britannia flies in - IT WAS quite a surprise when Czechoslovakian state airline CSA began operating Bristol Britannia's on flights between Prague and Heathrow in the early 1960s.After all, the country was in the grip of communism and, with other Eastern bloc countries, was expected to fly only Soviet-built planes.

The Britannia, on the other hand, was, as its name implied, as British as roast beef and Yorkshire pudding.

So what was this Filton-built four-engine turboprop doing operating in the colours of one of the nations peeking out from behind the Iron Curtain? Surprisingly, CSA had leased the Britannia's from another country now indelibly linked with communism - Cuba.


In the months before the revolutionary leaders seized power in early 1959, Cubana had introduced several Britannia's and another British classic, the Viscount, on routes to the US and across the Atlantic.

Their levels of comfort and speed, compared with the piston-engined types they replaced, made them popular with passengers and crews alike.

Many of them continued in service long after the revolution and, with CSA eager to introduce transatlantic flights, it was Cubana who stepped in with a leasing arrangement for two of its trusty Britannia's.

Flights from Prague to Havana, via Newfoundland or Shannon, were code-shared and began in February 1962, with the Botanies occasionally operating into Heathrow. CSA, which announced last week it is to withdraw its Heathrow services, ending a link which goes back decades, was founded as far back as 1923.

il-18After the Second World War, the airline was re-equipped with Soviet- built planes, principally the Ilyushin IL-12, and was one of the first airlines in the world to use jets when the Tu-104 went into service in 1957.

Turboprop-powered llyushin lL-18s became familiar sights on the London run 50 years ago and later the CSA's Tu-134s, Tu-154s and even IL-62s - nicknamed VC-l0-skis - were seen regularly at Heathrow.

But the venerable Britannia's were the only western-built type to fly in CSA colours until the airline's first Airbus airliners were ordered in 1989.

aeroblimp Vern Swerdfeger found this article -
Even though the Aero dwarfs the largest commercial airliners, it requires less net space on the ground than any plane because it doesn't need a runway. The airship takes off and lands like a helicopter, straight up and down.

This is not a Blimp. It's a sort of flying Queen Mary 2 that could change the way you think about air travel.  It's the Aeroscraft, and when it's completed, it will ferry pampered passengers across continents and oceans as they stroll leisurely about the one-acre cabin or relax in their staterooms.


During takeoff and landing, six turbo-fan jet engines push the ship up or ease its descent. This two-football-fields-long airship is the brainchild of Igor Pasternak, whose privately funded  California  firm, Worldwide Aeros Corporation, is in the early stages of developing a prototype and expects to have one completed by 2010 .

Terry's Trivia and Travel Tips - by Terry Baker
Terry Baker
Terry Baker
Before you travel to other countries, you may want to check the web site

This is not a site with good deals, but the Canadian government site which issues advisories regarding situations in various countries. Depending upon the type of advisory depends if you can claim full refund from your insurance if you chose to cancel or delay your travel plans. 

Ever been in your hotel room after checking in, and just putting your feet up when the phone rings and someone tells you that the scan of your credit card did not scan correctly, and you are asked to quote the number and other details? - Do not give out such information over the phone,  but return to the check in desk and confirm that they phoned you - this is a popular scam going the rounds to get credit card information.
Quick Shuttle Service.
This is a shuttle service to and from YVR and Seattle SeaTac
Airline staff rate ca$36.00 return
Loads outside International Arrivals Area 7 times daily.
Extracted from the October monthly newsletter by the U.K. Pionairs -
Continuing Our Far East Adventure:  (Jack and Aureen Morath  -  Continued)
We were up at 05.30 for our last breakfast on board, which we had in the restaurant named Romeo and Juliet. After picking up our hand luggage from the cabin we made our way to the Theatre area at the notified time, and after a short while we were called to follow one of the crew who led us to the Immigration Officials for Hong Kong who had come aboard to process us for landing. Then it was off the ship to the baggage area where our bags were already waiting for us. The whole procedure was very well organized, as usual. 
We joined the taxi queue to take us the short five minutes drive to Kowloon Railway Station, which was a very modern building. We bought our tickets for the Airport Express train which made one stop on the way to the airport.The train and facilities were very modern and the cost each was around £7 per person. The airport was also very modern and spacious. We had standby tickets to Bangkok which enabled us to travel on most of the many airlines operating the 2 and a half hour flight. We were at the airport around 0900 hours and the first flight we could get was China Airlines, but they would not accept our tickets as there was no agreement with Air China.

The next flight out was Cathay Pacific and they accepted the tickets without any problem. We noticed an Air Canada flight on the ramp which had arrived earlier from Vancouver.  Our B747 aircraft arrived in Bangkok late afternoon and we took a taxi to our new hotel which was called the Cha Da and is situated on one of the main roads into Bangkok city centre.

We were very pleased with this modern two year old completely renovated hotel, and they also gave us a good airline discount.  It has over 300 rooms and their website is   I have some surplus brochures if anyone would like one.  Tesco, Robinson, Care Foure are all within walking distance, as well as some street markets.  Plenty of eating places too, covering many different types of meals, both Western and Eastern, from around the world.  McDonalds, KFC, Black Canyon are amongst them. 

The taxis are also very cheap and clean.  The temperature was around 100 degrees F during our four days there.  The shops and markets are open until late in the evenings and on most evenings we were out walking and felt safe wherever we went.  You can get a taxi outside the hotel very easily as there are so many.  Taxi drivers are very friendly, especially if you talk about English football.  They know all the teams and the players.

to be continued .......

We hope you have enjoyed this issue of the NetLetter, see you next week!

Your NetLetter Team
First published in October, 1995
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